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    viZion

    viZion Arrogant Bastard

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    Couldn't find a thread where I could ask tiny questions that probably don't deserve an entire thread so, uh, here's this one.

    Anyway, does anyone know what House name Bronn chose when he was knighted? If I remember right his sigil is a burning chain.
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    Culhwch

    Culhwch Not actually a dinosaur. Staff Member

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    I don't know that he chose a name, as such. From what I remember he was being called Ser Bronn of the Blackwater...
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    viZion

    viZion Arrogant Bastard

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    Thanks for the answer Culhwch.

    Next question: Was Grey Wind killed at the Red Wedding? I think the wolf refused to enter the castle but I can't remember if he was at the wedding or if he was killed outside. I guess I could wait until I get to that chapter in my reread but the question is bothering me now.
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    Rohan

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    Yes, since you're asking, he was killed. :(
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    Lubbock

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    Yup they cut off Greywinds head and Robbs head, and then sew Greywinds head on Robbs body, damn just thinking about it make my hatred of the Freys burn brightly once again :p
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    viZion

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    Damn, that's what I thought. I guess I was just hoping I remembered it wrong and that Grey Wind could eventually go to Sansa. I think now I'll stick with thinking that Sansa is the Stark that other Starks can't be. If no wolf = no Stark then she won't be burdened by their fanatical sense of honor and therefore can play the game of thrones with the best of 'em. She certainly has a great teacher.
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    Falsteed

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    Prediction: Nymeria kills Sansa at some point in her travels through the forest.
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    Boaz

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    No, that's Little Red Riding Hood.
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    viZion

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    Does anyone know where I can find a complete map of Westeros? I mean with all or most of the cities marked. It's so hard to follow the movements of people sometimes with such incomplete maps in the books. I wonder why Martin did that. Maps of the lands across the sea would be nice as well.
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    Charming Serpent

    Charming Serpent Its ok to eat the apple.

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    Ooo, don't forget that Bronn is called Lord Stokeworth now after Falyse and her husband are dead and he is married to the fat one. Remember, when he killed the Lord Stokeworth in a jousting duel his own knights called him Lord Stokeworth now.
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    Shacklock

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    How important is Stokeworth? Cos both the Lord and Lady seem to be constantly at COurt, is that only beacuse of it's closeness or....?
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    Culhwch

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    This is a pretty nice interactive map:

    Westeros Map ~ Tower of the Hand
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    viZion

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    Excellent, thanks Culhwch!
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    Boaz

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    Shack, there were some lands in close proximity to KL that did not bend the knee to any great lord except the King. I think they're called the Crownlands.

    I think this area are the lands between KL and the mouth of the Trident, east of Harrenhal, and yet probably not the penninsula north of Dragonstone... but I could be wrong.

    Some of this info comes through in Brienne's chapter where she adventures with Nimble Dick or Septon Meribald. If I recall correctly, the locals were descendents of the First Men who had resisted Andal expansion, but they bent their knees quickly to the dragons. Nimble Dick said something to the effect of "We're all good dragon men around here."
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    Shacklock

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    Aye, noticed most of that. Also Crackeclaw point seems very desolate for somewhere so close to KL
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    Boaz

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    I think the extremes of the terrain, marshes and rocky hills, keep the population down.
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    viZion

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    Ok, I'm a bit confused about something. Who/what are the three betrayals that Dany will experience. I know Mirri was the blood betrayal. Then I thought that Ser Jorah was the gold betrayal but today in ASOS Dany thinks to herself that Ser Jorah is the love betrayal right before she banishes him. Is Ser Jorah both the love and gold betrayal so now she's done? Or is there another betrayal on the way?
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    Lubbock

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    The whole trick is that Jorahs betrayal is gold, she thinks its love, so when the love betrayal happens she wont see it happen, at least thats my theory :)
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    Charming Serpent

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    True, but couldn't it also have been he betrayed her out of love for his home that he wanted to return to and was promised?
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    Shacklock

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    Anyone know if House Vaith of Red-Dunes have words?

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