5.11: The Walking Dead - The Distance

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Can Rick trust Aaron or is he just another predator wearing false clothes?
 
I laughed when Rick one punch KOed Aaron during his pitch. Rick ain't messing around anymore! I hate applesauce too. Return of the RV. Glenn driving through all those zombies was an epic splatter fest. Rick shooting that zombie in the face with the flare gun was awesome. Looking forward to Alexandria.
 
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Jesse412 said:
Glenn driving through all those zombies was an epic splatter fest. Rick shooting that zombie in the face with the flare gun was awesome
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So many zombies and no cracked wind-shield. I wonder if you would, that would the glass really stay unbroken, when you so often see it cracking under just one hit being it a man or a moose. Nevertheless, I too enjoyed the splatterfest and following struggle with the forest zombies, and my heart jumped in my throat when Glenn almost bought it, but what I don't understand is why they just didn't ran away? Was there a real reason to waste so much of ammo on few of those roamers?

Jesse412 said:
Looking forward to Alexandria
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Alexandria safe-zone. :sneaky: :censored:
 
Well, at least they didn't walk so much in this episode, but instead the whole group pretty much sat on their arses pretty much whole time. I mean of course some of them walked, many of them stood upright and one landed an epic punch KOing Aaron with one hit just like Jesse said. But I am trying my best to understand what is going in Rick's head for him being so paranoid about everything. Sure they lost Tyreese and it's still affecting moral, but being so paranoid that there's almost no leeway for anything other than him doing endless threats on Aaron, even though he did his very best on trying to convince the group that there's no bad people in his community.

I mean how bad it can be if a gay couple can stay there enjoying their lives and even doing pre-apocalypse stuff by collecting useless items instead of focusing on food, ammo, medical supplies and all the other essential goods they need to survive with wrecks, ruins and endless waves of zombies? So in that regards I wish Rick would abandon his dictatorship and allow his council to do most of thinking, because at the moment I cannot separate Rick from the Governor.

Governor at least had a decency to patch up the survivors before he introduced them into his community as he knew that he wasn't going to make it alone. And in that light he was far better person than the people in the Terminus. So in that revelation hearing kids playing in the community sounds like they have arrived at the gates of a paradise. Will it stay that way? I don't know.
 
CTG, I think he has every right to be paranoid. The Governors community was bad, Terminus was extremely sick and demented, and the hospital 'community' just killed Beth.

From these experiences, I'd say they are safer on the road with the Walkers than with people

I really liked this episode. It felt more Walking Dead than the last couple.

And Alexandria...I'm with Rick, I don't trust it
 
I want so much for Alexandria to be a safe haven for the group, a place of relative normality where survivors are not the biggest threat faced in the post zombie apocalypse world. Yet, what would that mean for the series?

Unless The Walking Dead is going to hand the reins to the coming west-coast spin-off, I have a feeling that something is going to be terribly wrong on the other side of that gate. Rick has every right to be super paranoid.
 
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ratsy said:
I'd say they are safer on the road
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How long they can keep doing that? You saw them driving through a hoard of zombies. It wasn't an easy thing and they should had kept driving as long as there was road, because it's not that hard to lean out from the window and clean the windshield with a rag. So a base that has 5 meter tall sheet metal walls sound like it's an ideal place to camp out bad times, and up coming winter. On a road winter is going to be so harsh to everyone, especially to those who doesn't any means to survive on their own. And at the moment they have three people, Eugene, Gabriel and little Judith who need other people around them for those times, and that is three people less to do scavenging.

So, my question is if not Alexandria then where?
 
Yeah I don't disagree with you on that, but it's just hard for them to trust anyone given the last few stops.

I guess my question is, if all of these other groups of people have protected communities, why can't their group do the same thing? I guess the answer is people always mess it up...ie The prison

And for the sake of the show, do we really want to watch them hunker down in a town? I guess I would like to see it for a while...this show does need some hope which it has been lacking.
 
This was an intriguing episode. Aaron is convincing, but just before they ran into the Zombies Michonne was having her doubts and therewas a look on his face. I am not too sure I trust him, I am not even sure that there are children playing on the other side of the fence.

However if Aaron is for real then I think this could be a set up where Rick joins this community and ends up leading it against the 'Wolves' alluded to in the Ep.9. Or maybe Aaron's group are wolves in sheep clothing?
 
Felt like Aaron was being too antagonistic at times.. his thing about the apple sauce was ridiculous, just take a mouthful to prove it's safe!!! Rick is definitely justified to be paranoid at this point, but I think the situation was resolved nicely with Michonne stepping up to show that this isn't a Ricktatorship..

I'm not sure what happened on that highway.. the 2 vehicles were following each other, yet the RV had disappeared after Glenn came out the other side. Where did they go? And note to Glenn, use the wipers! Anyway team RV found Eric, and thanks to his flare (Rick making much better use of the other flare gun!), the others were able to reunite. Tender moments between Aaron and Eric made them seem like real people who love each other and look after each other.

I loved the way Rick's expression softened as he heard the sound of children inside the walls. Alexandria seems too good to be true after everything that's happened since the fall of the prison. I can't wait to see how things pan out (of course I know from the comics but the show continues to expand upon those works in new and interesting ways)
 
ratsy said:
CTG, I think he has every right to be paranoid. The Governors community was bad, Terminus was extremely sick and demented, and the hospital 'community' just killed Beth.
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You have hit it spot on then, and for that reason they will never ever trust anyone again. However, they will not survive unless they do trust someone. A community needs a certain size to survive. You cannot give someone time to make apple sauce if everyone is required for guard duties, savaging and food growing. The women need to be having babies and not be front line fighters! Otherwise they will all be dead in 20-30 years with no next generation to take over. Rick's group is much too small as it is, though some of them already seem to have given up anyway. The only other possibility is to continue on the road to find somewhere untouched.
 
markpud said:
And note to Glenn, use the wipers!
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I know right!

Dave said:
The women need to be having babies
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I was thinking this too. There has to be a catch. Like all women able to have children are required to, or something like that. Rules that the group might not agree to. I'm really suspicious of this place. I want it to be safe, but out of all the photos, where were the people? One group picture that didn't turn out right? Come on! I hope I'm wrong. The group really needs this. :)
 
svalbard said:
Aaron is convincing, but just before they ran into the Zombies Michonne was having her doubts and therewas a look on his face.
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Great point, svalbard. This seemed to me to be one of the most important moments in the show...it was such a drag that we didn't get to learn more right at that moment. But I'm sure we'll learn more next episode! :) Very good episode, I think...very happy to see..change..
 
Wo7f said:
I'm really suspicious of this place. I want it to be safe, but out of all the photos, where were the people? One group picture that didn't turn out right? Come on! I hope I'm wrong. The group really needs this. :)
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We are meant to be. We are meant to feel like Rick, an outsider to the general consensus of opinion. There was talk about how when they went to Woodbury and Terminus there was no sound of people from inside. Notice that here they could hear children playing. I loved that. I just know now that something awful is going to happen and the sounds are recorded and played on speakers. That is unless I've missed something and the show is about to end next week with everyone living happily ever after. :)
 
Dave said:
I just know now that something awful is going to happen.
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I'm hoping that the awful stuff will happen to the whole community and not just to the group and that Rick and the others will help. Like they did on Hershel's farm. That's one group of people that were actually trustworthy and merged well with the rest.
 
Dave said:
We are meant to be. We are meant to feel like Rick, an outsider to the general consensus of opinion. There was talk about how when they went to Woodbury and Terminus there was no sound of people from inside. Notice that here they could hear children playing. I loved that. I just know now that something awful is going to happen and the sounds are recorded and played on speakers.
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I think it's a recording too. I'm not buying the story with the photo either. After last week's episode with the emphasis on faith, Alexandria may well be making an offer of sanctuary but I'm guessing it's more to do with them needing Rick's group rather than any selfless desire to help. Aaron and Eric stalked them for a while before approaching to make sure that the group were worth the danger of making contact. Only two people to check out a group of over ten, potentially hostile people? Nah, I'm thinking Alexandria is in some kind of trouble and that they're desperate.
 
Nechtan said:
Nah, I'm thinking Alexandria is in some kind of trouble and that they're desperate.
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What kind of trouble do you think?

If it is a medical problem, Aaron told Noah that his leg could be fixed there by some super surgeon. I'm not sure why Noah didn't tell him he had lived in a hospital for months and if they couldn't fix it then, well?
 
I don't trust this Alexandria. The pictures did it for me. And Aaron's reaction to the flare seemed odd too - not just concerned but scared of something other. His demeanor changed briefly, like it was 'okay, enough of this charade.'

And did Noah lie about his leg? He said it happened in a car accident, but it happened when he and Beth tried their escape, didn't it?
 
Dave said:
What kind of trouble do you think?
I'm guessing that Alexandria doesn't have enough people to sustain itself. Possibly a rival group is threatening them and there's not enough bodies to defend itself. Whatever it is, Alexandria is in a position of weakness and is desperate for people to join them. Hence, only sending two people out to check Rick's group over with enticements to join. Water, food, big houses and children playing.


Culhwch said:
I don't trust this Alexandria. The pictures did it for me. And Aaron's reaction to the flare seemed odd too - not just concerned but scared of something other. His demeanor changed briefly, like it was 'okay, enough of this charade.'QUOTE]

I do think Alexandria is too good to be true. I'm not convinced Aaron and Eric are bad people but there are too many hints that Alexandria isn't what they say it is.

But then I remember how grim the comics were and Alexandria may turn out be more messed up than Terminus. :eek:
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Reaching DC's gotta be important, right? (even if it still looked like rural Georgia!) Alexandria could be exactly what they were hoping for when they headed to the Capital... I vote flowers and sunshine for the rest of the season :D
 
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