Robot evolution

Haven't you missed the Turing test thing?

Here's something from the comments on that page that sums up my feelings:

Here's a quote fron this 'convincing' Ukrainian AI boy when asked about his success:

"I feel about beating the turing test in quite convenient way. Nothing original."

So basically they fooled the humans testers by having a program that could barely speak English.

This story illustratesthe limited intelligence of humans more than anything.
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Captain Cyborg's Ukrainian AI demo was a stunt and not much better than early 1990s or late 1980s "conversation bots".
Robots don't evolve. They are developed by humans.
Many "remote" waldo gadgets or semi-automatic devices are described as Robots.
There is no AI in the real sense, only programs written by humans that mimic certain processes. They don't learn in any real sense (they do capture data and then the pre-programmed responses are better). No practical usable system re-writes its own program.

Don't be fooled by press releases, jargon designed to get funding etc. In a limited sense Robots are real (the V1 & V2 were "robots"). AI and machine evolution in any sense is SF&F.
 
The Victorians said people would not survive travelling faster than 50 mph (or whatever speed).

22nd Century robots will be far more advanced than we can possibly imagine, but at least we can look at various things which might point the way things will turn out.

Robotics is evolving, just as most technology is.
 
Robotic devices are being developed.
But actually very slowly.
They are more affordable than 40 years ago and smaller devices are available. Speed and accuracy is higher.

Basically they are flexible tools. People have been forecasting huge advances in Cybernetics and Robotics since 1960s and other than price and performance it hasn't happened. They are in essence the same as in the 1970s.
 
Ray McCarthy said:
AI and machine evolution in any sense is SF&F.
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This pretty much sums it up. There is rampant misuse of certain terms due to advertising and fiction/Hollywood. They do not evolve, they do not contain self-aware subjectivity in any sense - nor can they gain it.
 
Our technology is developing at such leaps and bounds. It's possible that robots might achieve true self awareness.
 
Michael Colton said:
This pretty much sums it up. There is rampant misuse of certain terms due to advertising and fiction/Hollywood. They do not evolve, they do not contain self-aware subjectivity in any sense - nor can they gain it.
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Are you replying to this topic's first post? That was a very long time ago, and evolution hasn't been much mentioned since. Keep up
 
Harpo said:
Are you replying to this topic's first post? That was a very long time ago, and evolution hasn't been much mentioned since. Keep up
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I am not particularly good at keeping things straight. :oops:

Edit: Wait, no the post I quoted is like three responses ago.
 
Ray McCarthy said:
Captain Cyborg's Ukrainian AI demo was a stunt and not much better than early 1990s or late 1980s "conversation bots".
Robots don't evolve. They are developed by humans.
Many "remote" waldo gadgets or semi-automatic devices are described as Robots.
There is no AI in the real sense, only programs written by humans that mimic certain processes. They don't learn in any real sense (they do capture data and then the pre-programmed responses are better). No practical usable system re-writes its own program.

Don't be fooled by press releases, jargon designed to get funding etc. In a limited sense Robots are real (the V1 & V2 were "robots"). AI and machine evolution in any sense is SF&F.
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And the same goes for you. We're only mentioning evolution now because you brought it up, and now let's drop it for another six and a half years, ok?
 
Harpo said:
And the same goes for you. We're only mentioning evolution now because you brought it up, and now let's drop it for another six and a half years, ok?
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There have been other recent threads that have brought it up at least tangentially. Most AI discussions, or rather discussions on why the term AI is a misnomer, end up discussing it. It is fairly inevitable, because once it is pointed out that AI is a misnomer the typical response is that it might somehow evolve beyond what it currently is.
 
Yes. there is only a very small market for sex dolls that look like Golems.
A robot Butler needs to be able to navigate the junk I have piled on my library floor and put the cup of tea on one remaining safe spot on top of an unimportant document on my desk.
It also needs to be cheaper than a TV set.
What it doesn't need to do is make decisions for me unless I'm dead and pretending I'm still alive.
 
A computer in the 1960s took up a whole room, in the 1980s a computer infinitely more powerful was in a small box; in the 2010s a computer infinitely more powerful isn't even visible to the naked eye.

50 years from now science will once again have taken a quantum leap forward; we cannot even begin to imagine to what extent it will have taken us (unless we've blown ourselves up)
 
Compared with the 1960s and 1970s room sized mainframes the 1980s one was a lot cheaper (by thousands of times) and smaller. But actually was a lot less storage and performance. Only supported one user.
The best one I have now is bigger than my 1980 model, takes about x4 power, cheaper in real terms and about 500x faster and 400,000x more disc storage, 167,000 times more RAM, much better graphics display. But otherwise not much different.
 
 
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Thanks for the help robot,

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