The Revived Tolkien Trivia

[farntfar]

So the tie breaker is to tell me who (One person please!) said it of him and when.

 

[Narkalui]

Gandalf at the start in Shadows of the Past

 

[farntfar]

Narkalui,
You've missed the point of my last reply.
You and Cat's were both right with your previous guesses that it is Gollum.

The game is, though, to tell me when, by whom and under what circumstances the observation was made and to give some evidence of those circumstances. (Prefereably a quotation.)

 

[Narkalui]

I give up. I cannot find it!

 

[Dan Jones]

Is it where Faramir has Frodo, Sam and Gollum in his custody? That's the only section I can think of where Gollum is with someone other than just Frodo or Sam in LOTR.

 

[farntfar]

This is tricky, DG, because you're still a bit vague.
Cat's has already been as close as you are now, some 6 posts ago.
In this circumstance it's usual to expect a quotation from immediately before or immediately after the text referenced in the question.
Can either of you provide one?

 

[Dan Jones]

I'll be perfectly honest and say I'm going to struggle to recall the exact quote without Google, and my copy of the book is all the way upstairs...

 

[farntfar]

In the face of such a concerted effort to avoid any effort, I capitulate.
A clapperless bell to you and the honour of asking the next question.

If you can ask a sufficiently difficult question also without consulting any of the books, I award you a muffle for the missing clapper.

 

[Grimward]

*Grins from the sidelines as he waits for the next challenge...*

Nothing like a concerted effort to avoid any effort...

 

[hopewrites]

All the way upstairs? Mine're in a box that's more likely to fall on my head if I try and get it down than not... If it is in that box and not some other perfectly identical box...

 

[Cat's Cradle]

Apologies, all! Once I had assumed I'd lost to good Narkalui, I stopped looking at the thread (not a case of bad-sportsmanship, but rather of bad attention span..ship..?).

I had to cheat though to get the exact answer, but I suspect sometimes cheating in a good cause (to get the ball rolling again here) is acceptable. So, from The Two Towers, Faramir speaking to Gollum: "There are locked doors and closed windows in your mind, and dark rooms behind them," said Faramir.

And since I know I am correct--because of the cheating and all--I hope it is permissible that I put the next quote up for guessin...in what book would you find the following quote (and who was the speaker):

"The rain has ended, and new waters are running downhill, under the stars. Let us now laugh and be glad!"

(I hope I played that correctly.)

*Grins from the sidelines as he waits for the next challenge...*

(I'm fairly sure this isn't a quote from Tolkien, and so, not the next guessing subject..? )

 

[farntfar]

'll be perfectly honest and say I'm going to struggle to recall the exact quote without Google, and my copy of the book is all the way upstairs...

All the way upstairs? Mine're in a box that's more likely to fall on my head if I try and get it down than not... If it is in that box and not some other perfectly identical box...

I have the entire text tattooed to my chest, so that I’m never without it.

Unfortunately, the tattooist assumed it was for other people to read, and so I need a vast array of mirrors and magnifying glasses before its any use to me.
I’ve tried ripping my shirt open and asking complete strangers to look for a quotation, but they just run away.
(There was that one fellow who didn’t, but I’d rather not talk about that.)

 

[Narkalui]

 

[Grimward]

Regarding cheating, we frown upon looking up the quotes on the internet when they're Tolkien's quotes (the point being to revisit the books!). Looking up quotes from others when they're used as clues or otherwise related to the challenge at hand is absolutely acceptable (as hashed out here a couple months back...see back read for details! ). Obviously, there's no way to enforce the non-internet, so we're really just relying on "good character", as it were. Since there are no rules about tatooing the entire catalog on one's chest, we'll forgive far for staring at himself. ;-)

(Sorry far, I couldn't resist. I am not worthy to clean the dust from your sandals, I am not worthy to.... ).

And no, CC, you're quite right; I didn't have the floor, so that was definitely not the next challenge!

 

[Dan Jones]

Hi chaps. Sorry for the prolonged absence, I had a weekend appointment at Peppa Pig World for my daughter's 2nd birthday. It was appropriately hedonistic, and I suspect it will take several bottles of Prosecco to recover.

I see Cat's has sneakily muscled in (if that's not an oxymoron) on my territory in asking the next question; a shame as I had a good one lined up about when Peppa goes to pottery class. But that'll have to wait.

Cat's: is it Aragorn when he finally becomes king?

 

[farntfar]

I see Cat's has sneakily muscled in (if that's not an oxymoron) on my territory in asking the next question;

That was the point I was trying to make really DG. We all need to give something pretty definite or some actual text.
If you look 6 or 7 posts before yours Cat's had already said "when Faramir caught Gollum" in a vague sort of way and I'd asked him to be more specific too.
As Grim says, this has all been hashed out before. (**)

And Grim! Noone goes near my sandals without the benefit of a very effective clothes peg on the nose.
Furthermore, I think, in your case (and thank goodness) the Borg were right about resistance.


(**)
DG,
This conversation is all starting to get a bit heavy, which wasn't what I wanted at all.
I'm certainly not trying to have a go, and I seem to be taking it all far too seriously. So please forgive me.

 

[Dan Jones]

(**)
DG,
This conversation is all starting to get a bit heavy, which wasn't what I wanted at all.
I'm certainly not trying to have a go, and I seem to be taking it all far too seriously. So please forgive me.

If it was getting heavy I didn't notice! If anything it's quite fun this way, questions and answers firing this way and that like dinnerplates being tossed by dwarves in Bag End, although it's probably for the best that we get back on track. So no apology (or forgiveness) needed at all

And when I said Cat's had muscled in I wasn't being mean - Cat's and I are cool

Anyway, talking of that frankly felicitous feline, where is he? I want to know if I was right about Aragorn!

 

[Cat's Cradle]

Everyone, apologies! I had thought to check the text online only so that we could definitively move on, because I thought I was right, but could not verify it simply from memory. I'm afraid I've messed things up horribly, and I regret this. Apologies, Grim, farntfar, and DG. The conversations here towards the end of the thread, btw, did not seem heavy at all to me...you're all terrific people, and I sensed fun not tension (with the possible exception of justified impatience with a thread-newbie who has busted into what was once a smoothly-running machine of a thread. ).

I'll mention, DG, that Aragorn is not correct. Though he would soon be with the group of folks to whom the quote was spoken.

ps--I promise to monitor the thread until the correct answer is given for my quote, and then I shall slip slowly away into the night.

 

[farntfar]

Ha. Got it.

It's Goldberry after her washing day.
followed by:

"And let us have food and drink", cried Tom. (ever the bon-viveur) 'Long tales are thirsty. And long listening's hungry work, morning, noon, and evening!'

I'm not sure I would have put that comma after noon, but there you are.

Good one Cat's. I think you could slip off into the night now, if it wasn't just gone noon.

 

[Cat's Cradle]

Right as rain, farntfar! Please take the steering wheel of the thread, and post the next puzzler. I've been reading this thread for months...it's wonderful reading the little vignettes from the novels, and I enjoy observing the detective work involved in working out the correct answers. So, now I retire to the more passive role of observer.